Industry insiders know that many of Alibaba's social recruitment positions now generally require P7 or above, that is, XX experts. Positions below P6 are generally recruited through campus recruitment or outsourcing (of course, this is not absolute. Recently, my friends from ByteDance and iQiyi have received offers from Alibaba P6, but they all rejected them). Why is the P6 offer from Alibaba so disliked? How competitive are those job seekers who are already P6 at Alibaba?

The corresponding title of P6 at Alibaba is called Senior XX Engineer, Senior XX Product Manager, or Senior XX Operations Specialist. The corresponding abilities are: having your own insights into solving complex problems, having insights into problem identification and priority allocation, and being good at seeking resources to solve problems; often having innovative methods because of your proficiency in work, and showing the ability to solve problems; being able to independently lead cross-departmental projects under certain guidance, and being able to train and teach new employees (usually outsourced or interns, newcomers, etc.).

Generally speaking, it takes 3-5 years for undergraduates to graduate, and 5-8 years for junior college graduates to be graded as Ali P6 (but now the proportion of employees with junior college degrees in Ali is getting lower and lower); if you have a master's degree, you may be able to get the P6 level after working for 1-3 years (Ali campus recruitment or social recruitment from other Internet giants).

Generally speaking, the pre-tax monthly salary of Ali P6 is between 20K-30K (it is rare to see a P6 with a monthly salary of more than 30K). According to Ali's standard 16-month salary calculation, the salary range is between 320,000-480,000 (cash part), and the median is generally around 400,000, 25k*16 months=390,000. If you jump to Ali from other companies and are graded as P6, it also means that you have no stock incentives. In recent years, the annual salary package growth of Ali employees above P7 is basically the result of rising stock prices. Therefore, if you are graded as P6, it will be difficult for your income to increase significantly over a relatively long period of time. The increase is too limited if you only rely on general adjustments or performance-based salary increases.

Of course, this is meaningless. It is aimed at candidates with strong educational background, work experience and ability. If you are currently working in a non-first- or second-tier Internet company or a traditional industry and are switching to Alibaba, it is already quite good to be offered a P6 position. After all, after working in Alibaba for a few years, it is still very valuable to be promoted to P7 or have a background in a large company.

However, not all Alibaba P6s do not have stocks (RSU). If you get 3.75 in the performance appraisal at the beginning of each year (end of March), then you will most likely get Alibaba's incentive stocks. This number will be less than that of joining the company, but if it is good, P6 can also get 3/400 of a hundred shares. According to Alibaba's current market value, it can be around 700,000 yuan in 4 years. Of course, this is just a hypothesis. If a P6 Alibaba employee gets a performance of 3.75 every year, then he will definitely be a P7 before the fourth year.

Of course, this is just the most ideal situation. I know many Ali P6s who have not been promoted for many years because of poor business development in their departments or poor personal performance (due to ability reasons or department adjustment reasons, such as some departments of Ali Entertainment, which have a new leader every six months. It is impossible for you to have good performance or achieve results), or some female employees who have been staying in the P6 position for many years because of pregnancy and childbirth, which is quite dangerous. After all, there is no Internet to provide for your retirement now.